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He dismisses the idea of a portrait photograph to accompany this story and he has on a very low-key, trend agnostic outfit: a denim shirt worn unbuttoned over a T-shirt, jeans and a black chunky watch with gold accents that looks expensive, but isn’t ostentatious. Saghian, who is Iranian-American with a boyish face and a full head of wispy hair, doesn’t want a lot of attention.

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It’s partly because being interviewed clearly makes him uncomfortable.

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Richard Saghian doesn’t do many interviews. Until now, he’s tried to avoid them, save for some general statements and phone conversations with a few publications here and there.

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